Posted by: the warrioress | February 28, 2012

Apology for Burning the Quran?

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Why is President Obama apologizing for the burning of Quran’s where ever this has occurred?

And why are there no apologies for the burning of bibles everywhere that this happens, all over the world, and in the USA?

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Why isn’t there an apology for threats to execute a Christian pastor in Iran? Why isn’t President Obama doing something about the threat to this Christian pastor’s life? Why isn’t he engaged in attempting to pull out all the stops to halt this execution?

Why are countless Christian believers regularly being murdered in foreign countries but there is no apology forthcoming from those leaders? Why isn’t President Obama making waves about the atrocities that keep occurring to these Christian believers?

Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum bring up some very interesting questions that I am now having to wonder about myself, despite my firm INDEPENDENT status politically.

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I’m a bit tired of President Obama bending over backwards to pacify Islamics who are offended at the burning of Quran’s, but who don’t seem to want to offer apologies to Christian believers for the offenses and atrocities also engaged in, which are equally offensive and downright atrocious.

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What is up with this double standard, Mr. President? It’s becoming irritating and inappropriate and a lot of Americans would like some answers.

You can’t be okay with the burning of bibles, American flags, and the desecration of everything religious under the sun, and then whine out an apology to those who don’t appreciate a smoking Quran or three. 

Two wrongs don’t make a right but your apologies are making America look weak and pacific. It’s time that we receive some apologies and that you stand up for the religion that you claim, for a change.

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Responses

  1. The reason he was apologizing is because it was an accident by US soldiers in Afghanistan. If we were hosting Afghan soldiers and they accidentally burned Bibles here we would expect an apology because it is their responsibility. Obama has no authority in Iran so he cannot apologize for anything they do any more than I can apologize for anything you say (although it is very tragic that they would execute a Pastor for not denying Christ).

  2. Incredible. I hope you saw Kira Davis’ “Apology to Pres Karzai” on YouTube, it’s brilliant.

  3. SEnd this to Washington!

  4. Where your sentiments are very understandable human emotions, St. Francis of Assisi was someone who really knew God. He wrote:

    “Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
    Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
    where there is injury, let me sow pardon;
    where there is doubt, let me sow faith;
    where there is despair, let me sow hope;
    where there is darkness, let me sow light;
    and where there is sadness, let me sow joy.

    O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
    to be consoled as to console;
    to be understood as to understand;
    to be loved as to love.
    For it is in giving that we receive;
    it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
    and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen”

    Know God.

  5. Thanks so much for expressing yourself here; I’m grateful.

    It IS very tragic and I would expect our president to threaten serious sanctions or worse. This is something that is outrageous and involves the life of another. Burning books never killed anyone, though radical Islamics seem to believe that they can freely murder others at will. We need a president who doesn’t kow tow to every foreign leader so frequently; this needs to change if President Obama is going to remain in office, imo anyway.

  6. Hi Kathleen. I went and looked at the Kira David vid and found it to be very wise and well said. Thanks for sharing!

  7. Perhaps I will, Cathy. (hugs) thanks for sharing, hon.

  8. Interesting, JLS…I appreciate your opinion and thank you for sharing it.

    God was and is quite the warrior, you know. He has been very firm with humanity in the past. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t sow pardons with others we interact with as a nation, but there is a time for everything known to man. There is a time for pardon and a time to stand up for ourselves and our own.

    The Christian pastor who is about to die in Iran needs our support right now and President Obama needs to be prioritizing HIS execution concerns instead of apologizing over some books, in my personal opinion. President Obama pays far too much attention to Muslims who are always offended about something or the other and I’m a little tired of it. I rarely see the president concerned with the slights Christianity and Christians are taking in this and other nations.

  9. Thank you in turn for your response! You have a huge point, you wont hear me arguing in the slightest with your sentiment. Though, I do wonder what is being said behind the scenes on various issues, but as you say, those issues should be as public as apologies, totally correct.
    But you know, what is a President when there is God in the matter? And it is up to us to carry the banner for God and show what a difference that banner makes. Much can be brought about simply by laying it at his doorstep. I am not a Christian, I found myself that religion complicated what God intends to be very simple, and so I removed it from the equasion long ago. And I have not looked back.
    When one goes to God, and gives him the matters that bother us, things become very simple indeed, a wrong is a wrong, no matter what. The serenity prayer asks for the “serenity to accept the things we can not change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” As a previous poster said, we can not change what Iran does, or what Muslims do, but we can change how we respond to it, and the example we set to others. Jesus said to pray for enemies, and to turn the other cheek to assault. “Do unto others what you would have them do unto you”, not “do to others what they do to you.”
    God and politics rarely mix well.

  10. First off, try not to misrepresent Obama’s apology. He did not apologize for “burning of Quran’s where ever this has occurred”. He apologized for one specific incident at a military base in Afghanistan.

    And if you’ve been following the news you should know exactly why he did it: relations between Afghanistan and the U.S are at a very low ebb, and with the planned draw-down of troops from Afghanistan planned for the coming months and years, the last thing the U.S. needs is to incite more violence and anger in that country. One reason for the apology, then, was damage control, pure and simple.

    Another reason he gave it was, no doubt, to attempt to calm people down and prevent further killing over the issue. Was that wrong of him?

    Finally, he presumably apologized because he saw that the American soldiers had made what appeared to be an honest (if stupid) mistake in disposing of unwanted books in a way that goes against local traditions.

    One of your objections seems to be that if Muslims don’t apologize to Christians, why should we apologize to them? This sort of angry stubbornness between religious groups is one of the biggest things I dislike about religion, and you don’t have to go any further than the Israel-Palestinian conflict to see its effects.

    Concerning the Christian pastor in Iran, here’s what Fox News has to say:
    “Dozens of human rights groups along with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 89 members of Congress, and leaders from the European Union, France, Great Britain, Mexico and Germany have condemned Iran for arresting Nadarkhani and have called for his quick release.Last week, the State Department and White House put out statements condemning Tuesday’s execution verdict.Congress has scheduled a vote as early as Wednesday on House Resolution 556, which condemns the Iranian government and calls for the pastor’s quick release.” (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/27/irans-christian-pastor-alive-execution-looming/#ixzz1nmswPxkz)

    What more, exactly, would you like Obama to do? Bomb Iran and start a war?

  11. again, The burning of the Koran necessitated an apology because it was an insult to the people and their culture whether we agree with the rest of their culture or not. Radical Christians shoot up abortion clinics but if someone burned a Bible I would expect an apology.

    Also, Muslims do not freely murder at will. They still have to abide by laws. Their laws DO call for “Honor” killings but there is a reason for that. They can’t just murder whomever they want whenever they want. I don’t agree with it but it is not just “freely murdering others at will.”

  12. 1 Timothy 2:1-4 (AMP)

    1 First of all, then, I admonish and urge that petitions, prayers,
    intercessions, and thanksgivings be offered on behalf of all men,
    2 For kings and all who are in positions of authority or high re
    sponsibility, that [outwardly] we may pass a quiet and
    undisturbed life [and inwardly] a peaceable one in all godliness
    and reverence and seriousness in every way.

    3 For such [praying] is good and right, and [it is] pleasing and
    acceptable to God our Savior,

    4 Who wishes all men to be saved and [increasingly] to perceive
    and recognize and discern and know precisely and correctly the
    [divine] Truth.

  13. Hello! I sorta have to agree with the other Keith up there.
    “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    Even though I know that peace isn’t always the answer,
    there are times when we must apologize for the idiots among us.
    I’m not so sure the burning was an accident. There are those who
    are hell bent on seeing Revelations fulfilled in their lifetime.
    Those people scare me. Always looking for a fight…
    with a Bible in one hand, and a fist made from the other.

    Obama wasn’t voted in to be the voice of all Christian/Americans.
    Socialism means: “That which ye do unto the least of my brethren,
    ye do unto me.” Christ is into spreading the wealth.
    The rich don’t need Him, but I do.

    Peace to you, girl. UT

  14. I Am…a registered Independent. 🙂

  15. I absolutely cannot argue with what you’ve written, JLS, as I agree with you; you are right about everything you’ve said here. Thank you for making me think a little more deeply on this matter.

  16. Ahh Keith….

    There you go again, in your usual brilliant fashion, bringing logic and reason to the matter and curtailing an emotional response. (I hate when that happens) 😉

    I must say, I was not aware of everything that this administration has been up to with the Christian Pastor in Iran. It appears that they *are* doing something, after all, thank God. No, I absolutely don’t want Obama to start a war with Iran over the matter; I think he is on the right track based upon what you’ve linked us to and have written here. Thanks so much for this clarification; I really appreciate it and feel a little relief that he’s at least trying.

    You are also correct that it can’t hurt to attempt to smooth things over (squeaky wheel gets the grease)…an apology never hurt anyone, after all, and I do agree that it’s diplomatic to utilize these when necessary; I think I’m just a little out of patience with the seeming fact that we never appear to get any apologies for really bad behavior, like the murder of US servicemen over the burning of these Quran’s. I don’t think an American life or two is equivalent to an insult they sustained through the accidental burning of these books, despite what they believe in their culture.

    Have they ever apologized to us? We’re overdue for apologies as a nation for the countless slurs they’ve given to America and Americans, but I do have to agree with you that “angry stubbornness” isn’t going to solve anything and isn’t particularly “rational” or “Christian.”

  17. Er…

    “Honor killings” are justified? This is what it appears you’re pointing out. I know you don’t agree with it (who would?) but it’s not freely murdering others at will? I’m not sure how else to describe it. It’s insanity and morally wrong and it needs to be stopped by the UN.

  18. I can’t blame you for agreeing with Keith, Tree. Your response makes a lot of sense, Christianity-wise. I was kind of approaching this “issue” from a political pov, not a Christian one. Thanks for clarifying that we need to remember the way of Jesus Christ in ALL things.. good reminder.

  19. 🙂

  20. Thanks so much for these verses, Faith. They definitely clarify the Christian perspective on these kinds of matters. Hmm.

  21. Well…

  22. Well…More US troops were killed due to the Quaran’s being burned. 2 more of our guys were murdered in these ‘honor killings.’

  23. All I want to say Warrioress is ….AMEN!!! I am in totally agreement with your thinking. It’s as if we dare not say one negitive thing or do one negitive act against any other religion…but put JESUS in the equation and it’s a whole different subject all together. CHRISTIANS wake up and STAND for JESUS.
    I consider myself more of an independent myself…but (and this is MY opinion), we need a new President and I pray it’s not too late for Rick Santorum and I never make statements like this…we need mighty prayer warriors out there as we speak. We have passed every law that is an abomination to our Lord and now we bend over backwards for othe religions…God help us all and God I hope You can continue to Bless America!!
    Please don’t misunderstand…I believe we are to love our neighbor and help others, even other religions. How else are we to win them over to Christ but by our love and words of our testimony, but even though we are in this world we are not of this world.

  24. Thank you, Debbie. I sure appreciate your thoughts on this. It’s upsetting to see the imbalance occurring but the bible said that this would happen, so I’m trying to be reminded of that. I’m finding it really hard to believe that we’ll ever see real godly presidential behavior and truth in action in any of our elected presidents. I don’t know if we’ll ever know the real person behind the mask of the presidency. It would be nice, wouldn’t it?

    I’m still not sure how I’m going to vote.. (sigh)

  25. Warrioress,
    In all honest…I don’t know either whom I will vote for! I just pray that God leads me, because if I don’t hear something before the election, I don’t know if I can vote!!


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