Posted by: the warrioress | March 16, 2012

Evil Incarnate

Hatred

A lot of people don’t believe that evil exists in the world; they believe that human beings are the evil and that the evil comes from inside of us, or “internally-speaking.” I don’t think that this is true. Why?

I have observed evil incarnate in various forms.

I believe that evil has a face, a name, and is an actual “entity.” I choose to refer to this entity as “Satan.” Some Christians call him ‘the devil,’ ‘Lucifer,’ ‘the father of lies,’ ‘god of this world,’and he goes by many other names as well.

The point of the matter is that he is tangible, real, and hates Jesus Christ, God, and the Christian. When I say “hate,” I do mean HATE. Sometimes the hate is obvious and other times it’s more subtle. I’ve done a few other posts on how dangerous and hate-infested Satan can be, but when he’s basically been given free rein within someone, he can be positively terrifying within that person.

I saw proof of this as I watched videos of what is put out by the band known as “Rammstein.”

Here is more proof.

The hate speech I’m linking to below is part of the public domain. This is someone’s personal blog on the internet at a dating site. The hatred within it is tangible, real, and clear. I’m bowled over by it. I’m astonished that a blog that persecutes the religious is allowed and even encouraged on a site where people are attempting to date others.  Is this not surreal? Well, it’s real, people. And it’s happening daily across the internet all over dating and social networking sites just like the one I’ve linked to.

It doesn’t matter where I found this offensive material or who wrote it. Suffice it to say that this is just one example I am sharing with you in order to expose what Christians are enduring across the internet these days. I was regularly exposed to these kind of writings daily at this internet locale I used to blog at. I occasionally stop back by and review the latest there out of curiosity. Recently, a friend of mine at this same site pointed this blog out to me; I thought I would share it with you. I was a member at the site for over three years before finally leaving for good. I think you’ll understand my departure as you read.

Initially my first response to this individual’s writings is to rage back. I want to pummel and offend in turn with my own words, but that’s Satan’s way, isn’t it? He gets off on rage, anger, hatred, pain, and instigating discord. So I realize that all I can do for this sad little person is offer love and prayer, and truly analyze my desire to rage  with anger in return and see it for what it is.  I think this kind of hatred scares me on some level and I want to crush it.

Jesus loves in a way that I don’t fully know how to do yet when I’m confronted with evil like this. When Satan is knocking at the door and raging in the attempt at getting one’s attention, what should our reaction be as Christians? What would your reaction be? What can be done for this person and what has overtaken him?

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Due to copyright issues, I can now only link the reader to the offending material. This is an important writing to view as an example of consistent, continuous, ongoing persecution of the religious. You are welcome to view this writing at the following link:

I must warn you that it is very graphic, threatening, and contains a lot of profanity.

http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_138218/Education_is_the_key.html

Hatred

This particular example of religious persecution is published at the following internet locale: http://tinyurl.com/yk8v8j2

************UPDATE*************

You will not be able to view the material any longer as the moderator of that dating site has deleted it. This move in and of itself speaks volumes and I consider it favorable that at least one threatening, hateful  post on this man’s blog was taken down. 

Exposing and confronting a bully is the answer to dealing with the bullying.  Sitting back and taking it changes nothing; it only encourages and enables the bully to continue.

Needless to say there is ongoing religious persecution  occurring at that site on many people’s blogs on a regular basis. Outspoken Christians are removed from the site; before they are removed, they are harassed by many in the membership. I will continue to keep you updated should the religious persecution of our Christian brothers and sisters for their faith continue there.

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Responses

  1. Mmm. That was creepy. I would have been kind of freaked out about that. But then again, I know how evil satan is, so I guess I get it. Question is: why was he bothering with your site? No one makes us read what we don’t want to…

    Good post. (And a troubling one, as well).

    — Bird

  2. Wow. So sad. It is obvious this guy never did any research either because it has been proven time and again, outside of the pages of the bible, that Jesus was real and did exist. It doesn’t make me upset to hear someone say these things, because, as long as they are alive there is hope for them. When Paul was still Saul, he breathed murderous threats towards the disciples and he presided over the murder of Stephen. He was as evil as they come, but yet became the second greatest proclaimer of the gospel to ever live. Who knows, perhaps this poor, foul mouthed, misguided man will find the Lord someday and be humbled by his words. At the very least, and hopefully not for his sake, he will stand and be judged for such non-sense.

  3. It is very depressing to hear that such evil exists in today’s world, but unfortunately it does. It is obvious that the writer never researched the Bible or the history of Christianity. My initial response would be to pray for guidance before I decked him, but that wouldn’t be very Christian like.
    I pray daily for people like this that they see the light before it is too late; sometimes I see a turn around, but sometimes I don’t.
    Keep up the great work!

    Walk daily with God at your side.

    Ed.

  4. Hey Bird, thanks for commenting here. Yes, reading this kind of garbage was very troubling for me. I had an extremely hard time reading it daily for the many years that I did. Eventually, I began to respond with resentment and angst and was booted from that locale. lol…. of course, this man remains, posting this same nonsense and hatred. Unbelievable, huh?

    I read there to see if anything had changed and it hadn’t. He is still harassing the religious with impunity and now there are others who have joined him in his “work.”

  5. I continue to pray for this man. Thankfully, when I left the place where he is freely blogging this crapola, I believe I got some distance from the emotions this stirred up within me. Blogging here at WordPress has taught me that the majority of bloggers are just nice, normal people..even the atheists and anti-religious, believe it or not. Not all non-believers are as filled with hatred for God, Christ, and Christians as this guy is, but it does sometimes worry me that they may eventually become so.

  6. I can’t honestly tell you how many times I felt like decking this guy myself. Now when I read him, I’m just repulsed and sickened. What distresses me more than anything though, is that I’m feeling a lack of sincere love for him these days. I’ve become overwhelmed by the evil within him spewing out and wonder what Jesus would have done with him… cast out whatever it is causing his hatred? ….

    Sheesh, it’s just tangible evil and scary and I am appalled by it. Furthermore, how can this site actually allow the religious to be freely persecuted in this manner? Isn’t this illegal?

  7. I almost wish I had not read this. I know there are haters, and if it were not for laws you know they would freely torture and kill.
    This verse has to be key to our safety and sanity. 2 Thessalonians 2:6 KJV (6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    Praying people have to withhold the enemy. I mentioned to the group that God is calling this nation to repent and pray for protection. Moses stepped in on behalf of Israel on several occasions, and it sure seemed that God responded to just one man. There are many more than one praying now, but what if all it took was one to stand in gap. Suddenly I feel my faith growing. God will restrain until that day that he snatches us out of here. I would not want to remain here after that, as all hell will break loose. Those lyrics prove that.

    Walk softly among the wolves.
    Ozzie

  8. Hey Ozzie,

    God forcefully removed me from the site where this guy was blogging because nearly every one of his posts were like this and he blogged a lot! I think God felt that I was becoming affected by this kind of garbage and He pulled me out of there and brought me here where I could recuperate a little.

    Do you know that on this same site there are people harassing and persecuting Christians in other blogs, as we speak?

    When you read this kind of stuff day after day, it skews your perspective, and can begin to impact your Christianity. It was impacting mine; I was beginning to recognize how scary this world is getting and was reacting to this quite aggressively; I became just disgusted with what I was seeing and it was really hard to love people like this guy. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still hard to love this guy, but more than ever, I realize how important it is that I learn to do so because if I can, he really can’t hurt me, no matter if he’s possessed by Satan himself.

    I’m just glad now that God got me away from there and that I could become exposed to a more professional, mature community of bloggers, not just bloggers that hate the religious. This is scary stuff though because you’re right. What will the world be like when things have degenerated to the point that all morality and human decency is completely gone and only the God-haters remain?

  9. Well, that post left me speechless. And that is hard to do. His picture scared me a little. Don’t want to be him…I always tell myself “Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess, Jesus is Lord”. That means his knees and his tongue, too. Welcome to this community! You fit in here just fine!

  10. (hugging) thanks, Bird.

    That picture isn’t of the man that did that post. I don’t know what he really looks like, but the picture I chose expressed the way he appears based upon the writings that come out of him.

  11. Then, excellent choice! I have actually seen people in person that just the look in their eyes is terrifying…Well, hopefully that doesn’t happen around here. But if it does, I have your back, girl!!

  12. He was a Christian at one time .. I’m not sure what happened in his life to change him. He can be “normal” as you know … but when he gets angry this is what comes out .. satan always takes advantage of us at our lowest weakest times.. and yes satan does hate God and Jesus so when you take them out of your life you are opening yourself up for satan to take over… and as you know he will not listen to a human .. it will have to be someone higher than us…BUT miracles do happen and I never give up.

  13. Hey girl (hugging)… I noted that your screen name has gone dark over there. Did you cancel because of the anti-religious fervor that’s been ramping up so much lately or are you just taking a break?

    I know he claimed Christianity at one time. The thing is, we’ll never really know if he was truly saved or not. I guess only God knows his heart. All I know is I don’t think I can be of service to God in attempting to minister to people that hate God like he does anymore. I react too aggressively to their hatred of God and just go cold with my own dislike of them. I think it’s the pure rudeness and immaturity that gets to me, but the underlying evil must scare me as well. I’m used to aggressively nailing what frightens me and running it off before it can run me off. lol..

  14. None of what he says bothers me .. the non Christians over there just try to out do each other .. I just shake it off and walk on and say a pray for him as I go.

  15. Wish I could just shake it off. I haven’t been reading over there in a little while and this most recent post of his seemed really vitriolic and over the top.

  16. My, My,My looks like we made someone mad wouldn’t ya say there sister pretty tough words from that individual who can only sit behind a computer and type away. Does he get out and say this garbage to people’s faces I doubt it, trying to nail me to a cross would be like putting an elevator in an out house would never work and never should be thought about trying. He would have gotten along with the Romans in Biblical times i would say. is he dangerous?….. not to me i will ccast him away as i do satan on the daily. This guy just figured out how to use the computer found some new colorfull words and thinks he knows it all. Who are we to judge him we know not his heart for real he may just be trying to push buttons or maybe he really could be a spawn of satan and if he is i would say bring it brother but you wouldn’t like this christian boy casting you away. keep up the good work sister. and as always keep the rubber side down and God bless you.

  17. I re-read this again and this individual bothered you enough to completely change sites is not good, as a devout Christian though sister you will come i contact with entities like this and some may be worse than this. I am disturbed by this but it is like this, I am a biker i make no bones about that so here is an analogy, it would be like me saying i don’t like 1%er bikers so i stay away from them i was only apauled by one place and that was because the bar made stole a dollar out of the change after I bought a cocke for 3 dollars and she only gave me two back along with a few other choice things. they were really rude in demeanor and so idon’tthink they deserve my hard earned dollar next time i do go there if there is i will be prayed up and it will be with the national president of my motorcycle ministry . don’t let this get ya down.keep on truckin sister you’re doin fine.

  18. I have heard your profession of Faith and I believe you are a born-again Christian. My Spirit was grieved when I read this. Why would you even post this…this isn’t the message the world needs to hear…I am a Christian…I don’t need to mud my way through this reading…as Christians we know what the world thinks and the four-letter words they use to express it…this person needs prayer, not our judgement. Don’t you realize that you or I are no bigger than what makes us mad. The world needs posts that bring hope and the “Good News” …not more of what the world already feeds on, in one form or another. Christians also need to read better than this.

  19. I’m sorry this has offended you, Butch. I have been reading these kinds of posts on this person’s blog and similar posts on other people’s blogs from a particular dating site for three years now. I’m also noticing similar postings in the forums on another site I occasionally read.

    I believe this is yet even more proof that things are becoming seriously negative toward Christianity, Jesus Christ, and Christians who believe the bible, who vocally stand by it as the word of God. I think it’s important that we discuss what to do about confrontational posts like this one that I’ve shared. Everything isn’t always neat and pretty. There is real ugliness and hatred in the world toward the Christian believer and it is growing; this posting I’ve shared proves that it is. I didn’t exaggerate and I’m not paranoid; this is real!

    How does the Christian, (like myself), handle this when confronted with it? What do we do when we are bombarded with this kind of thing day after day, on a social dating site, no less? How do we deal with it? Do we fight back? Do we defend the bible? What should we do and how should we feel about what this person is writing? How should we react to him as a Christian? This is what I wanted to discuss and make us all think about. This is important and it shouldn’t be swept under the rug.

    I have prayed for this man for quite literally years and if anything I think he is getting worse. He’s been writing this kind of stuff for three years since I’ve been reading his blogging and he is encouraged to continue by the many people who comment on and also read his blogs. I see very few Christians attempt to witness to him or do or say much of anything in response to his writings. If anything, he is only encouraged in his insanity and hatred.

  20. I understand what you’re saying, Robbie, and we can avoid people like this and blogs like this, of course. We can walk away and pretend it’s not occurring, but is this what Jesus Christ wants us to do? Is that how to handle people like this man that wrote this, who is continuing to write this kind of thing day after day? I think that more and more people who don’t believe are going to begin doing the same thing because I see it happening more and more frequently all over the internet on various different sites in forums and in blogs. This worries me and I think Christians need to open up about this problem and discuss what we should do about it and how we should react to it.

    Do we simply “shake the dust off of our feet” and leave him to his misery? What about the emotions he stirs up within us? Do we just ignore this kind of thing? Do we confront him on it? What do you think?

  21. Warrioress: I’m a little confused by your post. Are you saying that people are incapable of hate – that only Satan is capable of hate? That seems to be quite a leap of faith (and far too generous to humans, I think!).

    And if Satan is responsible for some people’s hate toward Christians, then who is responsible for some Christians’ hatred toward Islam? For that matter, who is responsible for any hate toward religions other than Christianity?

    And who’s responsible for hate toward gays, or racial minorities? Tirades against these people can be just as vicious as the anti-Christian rant you posted. Is this *all* a product of one entity – the Satan of Christian mythology – or are there multiple source of hate? And how can you tell? Where is your evidence?

  22. No, Keith, I’m not saying that only Satan is capable of hate. I think even Christians can hate. We are born again, however. We have the Holy Spirit; thus we exhibit the “fruits of the Holy Spirit,” so hatred should not be a part of our fruits if we’re mature, if our faith is mature. It is a part of our “natural man,” though. Hatred can be a part of human nature.

    One who hates God intensely though, who hates Jesus Christ, who hates Christians with great passion, without hating other religions and religious beliefs, seems obsessive and driven, imo. I believe that it is quite possible that Satan is responsible for this kind of vitriolic response and fixation.

    As for who is responsible for serious, radical, irrational hatred within the Christian, (example: Westboro Baptists) I would also consider the possibility that such hatred is emanating from Satan and that Satan can influence and impact Christians who are no longer in God’s will but whom have turned to their own and fallen off the narrow path of the journey with Christ.

    Satan hates; it’s what he does. I think the world hates as well, through the old man, BEFORE salvation. I think this hatred stems from this “old fallen man,” and is proof of enmity with God, with faith, with Jesus Christ, with salvation.

    In my opinion, the old fallen nature occurred to mankind because of the first sin, ie: Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The bible discusses man’s fallen nature as a result of this sin, and the opening up of humanity to the serpent, Satan. This is just my personal opinion on the thing off the top of my head without a lot of lengthy introspection on the matter.

    The evidence that makes this conclusive for me at the moment is what is written within the bible about who we are before salvation, in terms of our “sinful, fallen nature,” etc.

  23. I decided to expound upon this topic at Conversation Corner in order to discuss in more depth, how to handle abusive behavior and persecution as a Christian. Hope you’ll join me if the topic interests you and you feel led to share anything that may help myself and other Christians to deal with difficult, abusive behavior aimed at us because of our faith. Thanks.

    https://lifeofafemalebiblewarrior.wordpress.com/conversation-corner-2/

  24. eek…oh, the spiritual battle…God bless, sister! You also are in my prayers…

  25. Thank you, Lamehousewife, and God bless you too.

    You do bring up something by saying the words “spiritual battle” that is very important, that is good to expound upon.

    We are involved in spiritual warfare as Christians. This involves putting on the armor of God and recognizing who we’re doing battle with; it’s not just mere human beings, persay, but Satan himself and the leigon of souls that willingly and unwittingly follow him. This topic of spiritual warfare can get complex so I’ll just leave it at that; I think it’s a wise thing that you reminded us of it though.

  26. First off, I want to say that I don’t deny that what was quoted was anything other than spite and hate. This person obviously has become that which he claims to loathe–he is just as guilty of ignorance as the ‘christians’ he claims to be against. It is unfortunate that so many people choose to focus on the extremists who give any religion/faith a bad name, and consequentially stereotype all members of that faith.

    So yes, his tirade was obviously flawed, petty, and illogical–but I fail to see how you manage to transform an angry rant into the work of the devil.

    Whatever offenses were taken as a result of what this person wrote, however much hurt it caused, were all a direct result of the actions of a PERSON.

    Don’t use a scapegoat when you should be blaming the person directly responsible.

    In generalizing all evil and wrongdoing and hate as instruments of the devil, you are failing to see past what you have been taught, past the bias–you’re seeing the world from one perspective, while forgetting that there are always two sides to every story, and unfortunately the popular version is usually written by ‘winners’ of the story.

    As a Luciferian, I strive to be a reflection of my chosen god in this world–and guess what? That doesn’t mean I’m out to kill and terrorize and inspire hatred. I don’t want to destroy your faith, and I certainly don’t hate Jesus or your religion. I rejoice in the potential of humanity. I seek to emulate my god by speaking and acting against injustices.

    No, my faith may not be built on the foundation of love that yours is, but who are you to say that all my faith encompasses is hatred? Who are you to claim to know what my god’s motives are, what his goals are, when you only know what your god has told you?

    I don’t go around insulting your god or faith, and I certainly don’t go around claiming I know all that there is to know about him, that he is as one-dimensional as you have made my god out to be. I would expect a religion based on love and acceptance to pay me the same courtesy.

  27. (blinking in amazement)

    Forgive me if I stare at my screen in some surprise, Awaken In Light…

    You’re the first real Luciferian I’ve had opportunity to exchange thought with and I was beginning to think you guys were just more rumor mill than reality.

    You’re obviously intelligent and well written, but I admit you’ve caught me a little off guard with your comment. I want to do it justice, if you don’t mind, and the hour is quite late. Allow me to think through what you’ve written here and I’ll have a reply for you in the later afternoon, today. Thank you for stopping by my blog and sharing your opinion on my post in such a polite, respectful manner.

  28. Warrioress: I agree that people can be obsessive in their hate of Christianity, just like they can be obsessive in their hate of Islam, or women, or atheists. I just don’t see how it’s possible to tell the difference between hate that comes from Satan or that comes from people. It seems you’re adding an explanation (Satan) that doesn’t actually help to explain anything – human hate is fully explainable by human nature.

    The reason people in biblical times believed in Satan (and all the other supernatural entities, for that matter) was because they had no understanding of the brain and human psychology. Emotions like love and hatred just didn’t seem explainable via natural means, so it seemed obvious to conclude that good and evil supernatural entities (God and Satan) existed in order to provide the source of these emotions.

    People of that day also had the disadvantage of not understanding medical conditions like epilepsy, which they interpreted instead as the work of demons and spirits. They also didn’t understand schizophrenia and other psychological conditions that involve delusions and hallucinations – all of this was interpreted in a supernatural framework.

    In short, many of the ideas about the supernatural that people still hold today are hangovers of this ancient past in which very little was known about the human mind. And, as they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

  29. “As a Luciferian, I strive to be a reflection of my chosen god in this world–and guess what? That doesn’t mean I’m out to kill and terrorize and inspire hatred. I don’t want to destroy your faith, and I certainly don’t hate Jesus or your religion. I rejoice in the potential of humanity. I seek to emulate my god by speaking and acting against injustices.”

    I feel this is where we as a people actually hurt our selves .. before any of us chose a path in this life …God chose us .. everyone of us are his children .. we have chosen not to agree .. we are each a reflection of each other .. we choose to see what we want to see.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mhpLjPslbM

  30. I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think that means we hurt ourselves by disagreeing with his path for us. Yes, some of our choices may end up badly, but how else are we supposed to learn than by trial and error? And some of our choices end up being quite fulfilling.

    We are indeed a reflection of each other, of humanity in general–and all the good and bad that come with it. We have the potential for so much destruction, but we also have the potential for so much beauty and good. But as followers of our respective deities, we also end up being reflections of their ideals. As christians do you not seek to emulate Jesus’s works?

    It’s funny you posted a link to that particular Brandon Heath song, because I use it in my devotionals quite often. I’m quite fond of christian music, actually–I just see it from another perspective.

  31. Awaken In Light:

    “First off, I want to say that I don’t deny that what was quoted was anything other than spite and hate. This person obviously has become that which he claims to loathe–he is just as guilty of ignorance as the ‘christians’ he claims to be against. It is unfortunate that so many people choose to focus on the extremists who give any religion/faith a bad name, and consequentially stereotype all members of that faith.”

    Me:

    I’m really relieved to see that we can agree on this point. It doesn’t matter who this individual is or how long I’ve been exposed to his writings — what I wrote this particular post to point out is that there IS this kind of ugly hatred out there and it IS aimed at real Christian individuals like myself. We are exposed to this and have to deal with this, sometimes on a daily basis. On some sites, individuals like this one are encouraged even by the very moderators who should have booted them long ago for breaking the rules. When the Christian is booted for standing up for her faith, but an individual who writes words like what I’ve presented to you here is allowed to remain, what does that tell you about the moderation of the site?

    Clearly, more and more often people are taking issue with Christianity and the Christian believers who are vocal enough and aggressive enough to stand up for themselves, other Christians, the bible, God, and Jesus Christ. Christians are enduring real, serious verbal abuse and a host of other behaviors that are unjust in the way that they are treated; I know because I am one of the Christians who has endured this kind of treatment and behavior, and I’m tired of it. I’ve already become frustrated with it and have experienced feelings of anger and helplessness in my attempts to deal with it. At any rate, I now know it’s here to stay and that it is only going to get worse. Starting my own blog here at Word Press has been one attempt at dealing with abusive, persecutory behavior and it seems to have been a successful attempt, thank goodness.

    People who tell me that I’m “paranoid,” “overreacting,” “exaggerating,” and other sundry adjectives don’t have a clue of what I’ve been enduring as a Christian on various sites across the internet for years. As a Luciferian, I know you know what I’m feeling and what I mean. You can relate. You have chosen to remain anonymous for a reason as have I. I suspect it’s because you know there would be definite persecution come your way and that even your very life could be in danger. Thus far I’ve been stalked, harassed, mistreated, and abused because of my faith; I have no doubt that you have already or will experience the same in the future. And I’m really very sorry about this because it’s dead wrong. I would be the first person to stand up for you if you were being mistreated due to your beliefs. I don’t admire people who hurt others, who treat others badly just because of our differences faith-wise.

    You said:

    “So yes, his tirade was obviously flawed, petty, and illogical–but I fail to see how you manage to transform an angry rant into the work of the devil.

    Whatever offenses were taken as a result of what this person wrote, however much hurt it caused, were all a direct result of the actions of a PERSON.

    Don’t use a scapegoat when you should be blaming the person directly responsible.”

    Me:

    It’s because I’ve read this guy for literally years that I stated that I believe his “issues” expressed within the writing are the work of the devil. Yes, he’s a person, of course, but he’s a person under the influence of Satan, in my opinion, who has allowed Satan a foothold in his life. He is being used as a tool of Satan, for Satan’s purposes, and I think this is clear as we analyze the depth of his hatred toward God, Christians, Christianity, and Jesus Christ Himself. I don’t see this kind of hatred evidenced toward other beliefs or religions… ONLY CHRISTIANITY. That clarifies for me that something within this man hates something and somebody specific. He is obsessed and fixated to the point that he is incapable of writing about little else and has been for years. He is engaged in persecuting and abusing Christians in general, but particularly Christians who are vocal, outspoken, who believe in and stand up for the bible as the word of God.

    You said:

    “In generalizing all evil and wrongdoing and hate as instruments of the devil, you are failing to see past what you have been taught, past the bias–you’re seeing the world from one perspective, while forgetting that there are always two sides to every story, and unfortunately the popular version is usually written by ‘winners’ of the story.”

    Me:

    I don’t see all hate as an instrument of the devil because not all hate is rabid and all-consuming like this man’s hate is. This man’s hate is dangerous and frightening and suggests instability of personality and mind. Again, I firmly believe he is under the influence of something that can only be called evil; I choose to call the entity “Satan.” Psychiatrists might choose a fancy term to explain this condition and diagnose him with a disorder of some kind and prescribe some psychiatric meds. Fine. I don’t think that addresses the spiritual aspect of what’s going on with him, however, and that is what I wrote this post to point out.

    You said:

    “As a Luciferian, I strive to be a reflection of my chosen god in this world–and guess what? That doesn’t mean I’m out to kill and terrorize and inspire hatred. I don’t want to destroy your faith, and I certainly don’t hate Jesus or your religion. I rejoice in the potential of humanity. I seek to emulate my god by speaking and acting against injustices.”

    Me:

    I think this is wonderful, Awaken, and you have my respect for that. I support you fully in your choices, even if I personally believe that they are the wrong choices for you and anyone else who chooses them. I respect your right to choose and would never dream of attempting to take that right away from you. I’m glad to see that you are an intelligent, well educated, deeply thinking person who isn’t out to hurt others, who can communicate well with others. You show maturity and respect for other’s beliefs and I admire that immensely. Your respective beliefs are different from my own in terms of exact polar opposites on the majority of life’s realities, but there are some things we can and do agree upon, I’m sure; I’m grateful for this while we explore the differences.

    You said:

    “No, my faith may not be built on the foundation of love that yours is, but who are you to say that all my faith encompasses is hatred? Who are you to claim to know what my god’s motives are, what his goals are, when you only know what your god has told you?”

    Me:

    It’s a matter of opinion I have, based upon the bible that I read. The bible is the word of God, in my opinion, and it declares who Satan ((and his many other names) is. I believe what it tells me. I think it’s the inspired word of God; I’m sure you have your own opinions and views of God, based upon what I’ve studied about Luciferianism, though I know that all of you are very individualized in your faith and perspectives on Lucifer and how you go about your beliefs and live out those beliefs. Now, I don’t mean to say that YOUR faith only encompasses hatred, because I don’t even know you and what your faith as a Luciferian consists of personally. I can only tell you and write what I believe and know of Satan, based upon personal experiences I’ve had, what I’ve been taught, and what I’ve read.

    You said:

    “I don’t go around insulting your god or faith, and I certainly don’t go around claiming I know all that there is to know about him, that he is as one-dimensional as you have made my god out to be. I would expect a religion based on love and acceptance to pay me the same courtesy.”

    Me:

    I know it’s difficult and unfortunate to hear one’s “god” slandered, insulted, negated, and put down. I see this happen to God daily in writing; I’m sure you can say the same. We have to allow one another to have our own opinion and points of view, while still politely disagreeing about what the other believes, but being open to have our minds influenced by our willingness to simply hear one another. I am willing to hear you and believe you feel similarly. I don’t believe you’ll change my mind about your patron, Lucifer, and I don’t expect to change yours about God, but I think we can learn a lot from one another despite where we disagree.

    Thank you so much for coming out of the closet by being willing to share on your blog and being willing to share who you are to some degree with all who read you. I look forward to learning more about you and your belief system, Awaken In Light.

  32. Keith:

    “I agree that people can be obsessive in their hate of Christianity, just like they can be obsessive in their hate of Islam, or women, or atheists. I just don’t see how it’s possible to tell the difference between hate that comes from Satan or that comes from people. It seems you’re adding an explanation (Satan) that doesn’t actually help to explain anything – human hate is fully explainable by human nature.”

    Me:

    I don’t think you can write all hatred down to human nature when it has moved beyond the boundaries of what is normal and has become something dangerous and essentially frightening. When I listen to or view the videos from the band “Rammstein,” I see and hear EVIL INCARNATE. I sense and feel something terrifying that makes my skin crawl and takes my breath away. There is a presence.. something supernatural that I sense within what I’m viewing. It is the same with the writings that are coming out of this person that I have exemplified on this post. The man himself is NOT a bad person; it is, instead, whom he has turned himself over to in his ignorance that has filled him with what he has now become. This isn’t judgment, this is my own observation based upon my feelings and senses. I sense something evil in those writings just as I sense an evil supernatural presence influencing and within the works of the band “Rammstein.” You understand what I’m trying to say?

    Keith:

    “The reason people in biblical times believed in Satan (and all the other supernatural entities, for that matter) was because they had no understanding of the brain and human psychology. Emotions like love and hatred just didn’t seem explainable via natural means, so it seemed obvious to conclude that good and evil supernatural entities (God and Satan) existed in order to provide the source of these emotions.

    People of that day also had the disadvantage of not understanding medical conditions like epilepsy, which they interpreted instead as the work of demons and spirits. They also didn’t understand schizophrenia and other psychological conditions that involve delusions and hallucinations – all of this was interpreted in a supernatural framework.

    In short, many of the ideas about the supernatural that people still hold today are hangovers of this ancient past in which very little was known about the human mind. And, as they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.”

    Me:

    Yes, Keith, I understand this theory, and as someone who is well educated in the field of human psychology and counseling, I have had these very theories drilled into my head for quite literally years. I disagree with them now, however, because as I’ve grown older and wiser and have been watching what is happening around me in the world and the people within our world, I now believe that psychology and counseling are sometimes in error. I now believe that the bible was actually right the entire time.

    Evil exists. It is supernatural and is an entity that you can refer to by however you may choose to refer to it as. As a scientist, I know you don’t believe in the supernatural and prefer to explain things reasonably and scientifically. We disagree in this regard; still I can respect that there are most definitely times when someone’s condition is what it is due to psychiatric or medical issues and don’t believe for a minute that all things wrong with someone can be scapegoated as Satan. You can be assured that when I call something evil, it’s because I believe that Satan is involved in somehow influencing the situation or person, but I’m also well aware that most times there are medical and psychological explanations that are the actuality and fact.

  33. “I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think that means we hurt ourselves by disagreeing with his path for us. Yes, some of our choices may end up badly, but how else are we supposed to learn than by trial and error? And some of our choices end up being quite fulfilling.”

    I suppose your right … but it’s very dishearting when we have all the different religions and the people in each religion cannot even agree with each other on the things they believe. They all have different doctrines (manmade) to suit their situations .. and it ends up alienating so many people.I don’t know if you believe in heaven ..I’m not sure what you believe .. but in my minds eye I see heaven as having everyone together in total agreement… in the Lords prayer it says ..Your kingdom come,
    your will be done,
    on earth as it is in heaven… so me it sounds like we should be in harmony while still on earth… so I try to approach every situation with an open mind .. keep what my spirit says keep and discard the rest.

  34. you are right in your comment we must deal with people like this because it is what Jesus would do with a loving spirit he would be moved with emotion. How ever there comes a time when one must rebuke a person based on their actions as well but only that line can be drawn between you God and whom ever you are dealing with. you must put on the full armor of God on a daily basis because we are constantly fighting a spiritual battle there for we must know th weapons God has given us to fight the good fight and how to use them effectivly and with love not malace. it does seem to have bothered you though i can tell by the writting and as a brother in Christ if you have something you need help with I am an ordained minister and will help you out to the best of my ability if need be. stay in the word and God bless.

  35. Sounds like a 13 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

  36. Well, it’s my personal opinion that belief and faith is an extremely personal thing. Everything has their own path, as you said, tailored to their needs, hopes, and dreams. Yes, sometimes our path may be solitary and lonesome, but I don’t see it as alienation–it’s diversity. Our paths are as diverse as we are as a people.

    As for heaven, I can’t see it in a very positive light if it’s as it’s been described. Peace, harmony, and no disagreements at all may seem like a good thing superficially, but it also means there’s no room for growth and development. You can’t learn from someone who thinks the same way you do.

    And perpetual bliss seems so…stagnant. I’ve learned to appreciate my emotions, even the ones that hurt.

    I once asked someone what would happen if I went to heaven but one of my loved ones didn’t. It wouldn’t feel very much like heaven, then. They said that we would be wiped of all our sorrow and grief, and essentially we would ‘forget’ that person so as to not be upset over the fact that we’d never see them again.

    I don’t want my emotions to be wiped. I want to remember all the sorrow and despair, I want to remember how they’ve helped me grow. I want to feel things besides joy, I want to have my own individual thoughts that may clash with others.

    I want to be human, with all the good and bad that come with it–not some programmed soul.

  37. Seems evil and hatred draw a good crowd, huh? Fuels most novelists; we ought to be used to it.
    Philosophically, I/ve been told that evil is a negative; to be specific, it’s the absence of good. Well, ok. There seems a sufficient supply available from our human nature. For that matter, where is there any evil without the involvement of a human hand? Pretty hard to find, seems to me.

    If we go for a third party as author of evil, thereby it would seem we absolve ourselves of at least some responsibility. That strikes me therefore, as at least a partial cop-out. Whether or not one personifies evil, it stalks where man walks and nowhere else; we must take responsibility since it’s we who make the decisions, from what I can see.

  38. It has bothered me, Rambo. It has bothered me a lot. It’s the reason I started my own blog. I was tired of unreasonable, unjust, unfair moderation and wanted to write what I want to without being curtailed just because I’m a Christian, and a vocal Christian at that. I was fed up with emotional, verbal abuse, being stalked, having my email hacked, and a host of other inappropriate activities. Just because we’re Christian doesn’t mean that we have to accept this kind of abusive behavior. We have to love our enemies but we don’t have to encourage, enable, and approve of behavior like harassment, stalking, and verbally persecuting others as a part of the life of a Christian. I just cannot agree that this is acceptable and that we as Christians have to simply tolerate it.

  39. I can show you a host of other writings and videos exactly like it from other sites across the internet, including youtube.

    I published this in order to expose what’s going on and to show the Christian community what Christians out here are enduring. As Christians, if we don’t surf much and expose ourselves to a variety of people and their opinions on forums and different sites, we may not realize what’s happening all over the world. We may not understand that emotionally abusive behavior is occurring to Christians all over this world right now, and of course, worse than that, physical persecution too.

  40. When you find it directed toward God, the bible, Jesus Christ, and the people themselves who believe in these, it’s more than just human nature gone bad. This evil is growing and spreading. This writing is only one small example; as I’ve already said, I could provide countless more that we are exposed to daily on the internet. It’s only a matter of time before it becomes hatred that is expressed physically, violently.

  41. Warrioress:

    “I don’t think you can write all hatred down to human nature when it has moved beyond the boundaries of what is normal and has become something dangerous and essentially frightening. ”

    But that’s exactly where the problem is. You can’t judge the origin of hatred simply by how scared it makes you. The next Christian who hears that rant might just think it sounds pathetic (like the tantrum of a 13 yr-old, perhaps?), and won’t be scared at all. So who’s right, you or the other Christian?

    Take another look at your words: you’re essentially saying that people are not capable of being dangerous, frightening, or extreme on their own, but require Satan’s assistance. Is that really what you believe?

    Incidentally, exactly the same argument can be made regarding the influence of God in the world. Something makes Christians feel happy or elated or peaceful, and they are likely to attribute it to God, even though those feelings are perfectly explainable in a natural framework.

  42. I’m basing my judgment that Satan is behind this and involved based upon the attacks upon God, Christianity, Jesus Christ, and believers themselves. This is religious persecution, plain and simple. Yes, personally I believe that Satan is behind these kinds of attacks because we are told within the bible that we will be persecuted and eventually murdered by certain people who are under the influence of Satan, who are following Satan.

    Certainly we can call this kind of thing a mental disorder and pin it on something wrong psychologically; there is no argument here from me regarding that theory. Yes, there is a screw or two loose in this kind of hate speech and hatred, but particularly important is that I believe there is also a spiritual, supernatural influence that is causing it or even aggravating it. It is evil. The bible warned us that this was to come and it is here.

  43. @ Keith,

    Just to be fair to Warrioress, there have been temper tantrum throwing 13-year-olds who have hurt people.

    I still mean what I said about the way it sounded – immature. But I do agree with Warrioress that what was said is religious hate directed toward those in the Christian world; plain and simple.

    @ Warrioress

    When you say that the “Bible warned us that this was to come” please remember that “this” has never really left since the 1st century. There are times when it seems to “flare up” more than others, but I would be careful to imply that this particular moment in time is worse than any other moment.

    I don’t like the stuff anymore than you do, believe me. And I agree that there are times when certain things are motivated by pure evil; but remember that there are many people who take great “liberties” with their words on the internet because of the small likelihood of repercussions. But I still agree with you that there are times when words should be taken very seriously.

  44. Thank you, Eugene. Thank you for sharing that and I appreciate what you’re saying.

  45. ************UPDATE*************

    You will not be able to view the material any longer as the moderator of that dating site has deleted it. This move in and of itself speaks volumes and I consider it favorable that at least one threatening, hateful post on this man’s blog was taken down.

    Exposing and confronting a bully is the answer to dealing with the bullying. Sitting back and taking it changes nothing; it only encourages and enables the bully to continue.

    Needless to say there is ongoing religious persecution occurring at that site on many people’s blogs on a regular basis. Outspoken Christians are removed from the site; before they are removed, they are harassed by many in the membership. I will continue to keep you updated should the religious persecution of our Christian brothers and sisters for their faith continue there.

  46. […] already provided the most recent example of this in my posting, “Evil Incarnate,” where I link to proof of this verbal abuse that actually threatened the Christian with bodily harm, […]

  47. […] Evil Incarnate (lifeofafemalebiblewarrior.wordpress.com) […]

  48. I was very disappointed to read that someone had accused me of stealing, or “robbing” the written material that I linked to on this post, that I was referring to as pure evil. I don’t believe that when one gives credit where credit is due, via linking to written material, that this can be referred to as stealing or robbing anything.

    What’s going on is that there are a few very outraged, put out individuals who are angry that the hate and written persecution has been exposed; some of these people enjoyed the drama that these kinds of posts brought out in others. Some simply want to blatantly lie and make things up in order to stir the pot.

    The truth of the matter is that I had enough of watching the writer of that foul garbage continue to break the rules on that site and get away with it; I had enough of watching him persecute the religious and be encouraged in it by the sick people who did and said nothing about it, who actually enjoyed watching the religious get trashed.

    I EXPOSED THE POSTING FOR WHAT IT WAS; THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID.

    I EXPOSED THE BIGOTRY OF THE AUTHOR OF THAT GARBAGE — that’s why certain people are mad.

    I would do it again in a heartbeat.

    I will never regret doing it, nor will I ever believe for a moment that I was wrong to do it. I will do it again if the persecution on that site continues. I will link to whatever and whomever persecutes Christians so that the entire world can read what is being written and be aware of who is writing it.

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