Posted by: the warrioress | May 1, 2012

Secularism & School Shootings

I’ve located some very interesting opinion on this topic and wanted to share a few excerpts from a chat with Chuck Norris about the correlation between secularism and school shootings:

“On February 14, 2008, five students at Northern Illinois University were senselessly killed in DeKalb, Illinois, when a former graduate and gunman dressed in a black trench coat walked into a lecture hall and opened fire with a shotgun and two handguns. In all, I’ve counted at least 14 different shootings at colleges or universities since 2000, resulting in approximately 60 fatalities and dozens more wounded.”

“A decade ago, GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee wrote the book “Kids Who Kill,” which examines and seeks remedies for school shootings. In it he points to modern day factors that contribute to a culture of killing. Among them are a devaluing and disregard for human life; a greater parental disconnection from and immoral license with their children; a fascination with antiheroes or gangsters that breeds cynicism and selfishness; a false sense of self-worth or a perceived incapability of obtaining status, notoriety or contentment; a thirst for adrenaline and extremes to acquire attention, as well as pushing the envelope of rebellion, chaos and brutality; the impersonalizing of society through such devices as the Internet and frequent transient shifts in employment, living localities and friendships; the legislation of subversive morality; an abandonment of a fellowship and moral center of community like a church; and a complete disregard for moral absolutes.

We teach our children they are nothing more than glorified apes, yet we don’t expect them to act like monkeys. We place our value in things, yet expect our children to value people. We disrespect one another, but expect our children to respect others. We terminate children in the womb, but are surprised when children outside the womb terminate other children. We push God to the side, but expect our children to be godly. We’ve abandoned moral absolutes, yet expect our children to obey the universal commandment: “Thou shall not murder.” As James Madison once wrote, “Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty, as well as by the abuses of power.”

Former Arkansas Governor, Mike Huckabee, speak...

When asked what a president can do, Mike Huckabee posited amidst his condolences for the victims of the NIU shootings, “I think a president ought to just encourage this country to once again get back to their own moral center.”

Once upon a time, churches served as moral centers of a community. Of course, not any longer. And as Theodore Roosevelt once said, “In this actual world, a church-less community, a community where men have abandoned and scoffed at, or ignored their Christian duties, is a community on the rapid downgrade.” Our founders concurred.

Do we now believe we can consider morality and religion optional, without suffering civil and societal repercussions, despite the warning of our Founding Fathers, such as John Adams, “Our Constitution was made for only a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”? – Chuck Norris

And here too from Brian Rohrbough, who lost his son, Dan, in the Columbine massacre. From the October 2 broadcast of the CBS Evening News:

“I’m saddened and shaken by the shooting at an Amish school today and last week’s school murders [in Bailey, Colorado]. When my son Dan was murdered on the sidewalk at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999, I hoped that would be the last school shooting. Since that day, I tried to answer the question, “Why did this happen?”

This country is in a moral free fall. For over two generations, the public school system has taught in a moral vacuum, expelling God from the school and from the  government, replacing him with evolution, where the strong kill the weak without moral consequences. And life has no inherent value. We teach there are no absolutes, no right or wrong, and I assure you the murder of innocent children is always wrong, including by abortion. Abortion has diminished the value of children. Suicide has become an acceptable action and has further emboldened these criminals. We’re seeing an epidemic increase in murder/suicide attacks on our children.

Freedom From Religion Foundation billboard

Freedom From Religion Foundation billboard (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Sadly, our schools are not safe. In fact, we now witness that within our schools, our children have become a target of terrorists from within the United States.” -Brian Rohrbough, whose son, Dan, was killed at Columbine.

Here are some more really fantastic readings I’ve located as well, if you’re interested in more  about the correlation between school shootings and secularism within our public schools. These are an absolute must. They are really well done:


  1. Very insightful post. Mike Huckabee would have made one fine president.

  2. thank you for sharing with everyone. this is such an important issue in today’s world

  3. Warrioress. I have to say, I’m so tired of seeing people confuse evolution with a moral theory. It isn’t.

    Do you know what Richard Dawkins says about evolution? He says he thinks it would be one of the worst possible models for morality. He’s right.

    Evolution is not a moral theory, it is a story of our biological history. Please stop confusing the two.

  4. And if you want to make a strong case that secularism is behind school schootings, you’re going to have to do a whole lot more than quote ignorant politicians like Mike Huckabee.

  5. To my knowledge, Keith, science is not concerned with, nor does it offer a moral theory. This is why science is so inadequate as a way of looking at the world through the lens it offers. Science and spirituality do not mix. Science and ethics don’t exist. Natural selection is simply a model that is incomplete, that offers a flawed attempt of creation. Those who worship science as their “god” exhibit the problem well. Secularism is similarly problematic. When God is removed, the void left by His removal is filled by Satan. I will discuss this in my next post.Thanks for sharing…

  6. Thanks, Diana, I agree with you. It’s a shame the rest of the country didn’t feel the same.

  7. You’re welcome, Terry. I’m glad you realize the importance of this. I hope the other readers do as well.

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