Posted by: the warrioress | March 20, 2013

Irritating

I’m  not sure why this man’s posting irritates me exactly– I only know that it does.

When I take the time to express myself on someone’s blog and attempt to comment not just once, but twice, I expect some response — not just deletion of my comment and nothing in my inbox bothering to tell me that the individual blogger couldn’t care less about my opinion or the time I spent bothering to offer it to him; there’s just simply nothing. I am essentially silenced and expected to go away quietly.

Hmm. Not going to happen.

Most bloggers are not this rude. I’ve also not run across too many who won’t print my comment because I disagree with them, but occasionally this does happen. When it happens between myself and a Christian brother or sister, I really get irritated.  I get irritated because I feel that I had something important to share with said brother or sister and was ignored. I was not allowed to express myself simply because my opinion did not coincide with theirs. Normally I would ignore this little glitch; then there are the times that I refuse to ignore the matter because it’s simply too important to ignore. This is one of those times.

So, I was reading HERE.  Now, I share this with you, the reader, for the purposes of background information only. Since I will be making reference to the posting in question and the poster, potentially, I think it only fair that you’re are able to read his posting in the event you’re interested in doing so. I commented the following on this gentleman’s posting:

the warrioress on March 19, 2013 at 10:56 PM said:
“I don’t care for these kind of postings. Let me show you why….
If you support the religious right of this nation, you don’t support the poor, widows, orphans, elderly, disabled, unemployed, and are not righteous. If you support the religious right of this nation, you support denying other human beings simple health care so that they too can live. Jesus healed everyone freely. He didn’t demand that we have health insurance.
If you support the religious right, you clearly support destruction of the planet and the environment in order to favor big oil and greedy corporations. If you support the religious right, you support war and revel in death, murder, and can hardly be called “pro-life;” Instead you show obvious and blatant HYPOCRISY. You support the death penalty!
You are only pro-life when it suits you, when you can rationalize killing and murdering as okay. You’re for peace as long as there’s no oil to steal from other countries, but if you can profit off of it, you’re for war. PURE HYPOCRISY.  It’s got to be difficult to be so hypocritical and to dislodge that BEAM in your own eye instead of focusing upon someone else’s splinter.
Now…I think you get my point; at least I sure hope you do. Playing around with judgment and calling it “righteous” depends upon the point of view, my brother in Christ. And how do you have the right to judge anyone’s heart for God? Maybe step back and pray about this and search for your lost humility.
the warrioress on March 19, 2013 at 11:06 PM also said:
“You might want to review the trailer on my most recent posting. It’s written to Christians just like yourself.”
Your politics have blinded you to who you are as a Christian and your role as a Christian FIRST. You are behaving like a Republican first, instead of a follower of Jesus Christ.
Re-read the bible. You are instructed there on how to treat the poor and downtrodden. Those whom you favor could care less about the poor. Pull your blinders off and recognize that both political parties are far from God’s will and plan, and are anything but Christ-like.
When you judge President Obama, you’ve negated the fact that there is no one running who was any better, who favored and lived God’s word, who was running for President.  Personally, I believe you need to take your own inventory and begin dealing with your own flaws that are keeping you from behaving in Christ-like fashion. Start being a Christian first instead of a political party cheerleader; that’s my sisterly advice in Christ. And I do say all of this in love, brother, firmly, but in love all the same…”
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Now admittedly, I went off a little. I got a little froggy. I may have even been a little harsh. If you read through his blog posting that I have referenced here, however, perhaps you may or may not understand why. Sometimes I feel the need to exhibit the exact same hypocritical behavior in writing in order to give someone a jolt to their brain so that said individual will grasp exactly what the problem is.

In this particular posting, we have immense moral judgment demonstrated by the writer because of the political party one personally chooses to support, as a Christian. In other words, this gentleman judges my Christianity and yours based upon who we voted for. Because I voted for President Barack Obama, I am judged to favor and support abortion, homosexuality, and apparently everything else that liberal Democrats support. Certainly this is a leap and illogical, and this is part of the reason that I responded to him in kind. I am hoping that through my equally judgmental and hypocritical example, he will see the error of his ways.

I want this gentleman to understand how it feels to be judged based upon the political party he is supporting, so he can grasp how unfair doing this to someone else is. Some people are so stubborn that they will not learn until they are forced to put themselves into the position of the other guy and feel what he’s feeling. Some Christians are so self righteous and arrogant that they refuse to believe that they could be wrong, biased, blind, or just narrow minded and stagnating to the point that they are no longer growing spiritually.

It’s dead wrong to judge others by their politics and condemn them based upon their vote. It’s ridiculous to assume that one can judge another’s relationship with God based upon their vote. Making this leap and leveling judgment upon another because the thought processes between us are different is ignorant and naive. It is small-minded and irritating, to say the least.

I am not accustomed to being blown off and ignored while one in my spiritual family decides to continue in blatant ignorance without even a “thank you for the bother, but I’m not going to print your comment and here’s why” flung my way. The writer of that posting having done this tells me that right and wrong do not matter to said individual and that learning has ceased.

I will no longer subscribe to such an individual’s blog or continue to read them because it’s pointless to digest further writings that are certain to contain more of the same and thus continue to irritate — but before I unsubscribe, I enjoy sharing my point of view about what so irritated me. Perhaps others may see what I’ve seen and think deeply upon the matter as I did. Even if the gentleman in question refuses to consider my point of view, maybe someone else will. I cannot simply allow what this man has written to stand without comment.

The writing is ugly, erroneous, judgmental, and typical of the religious right blinders people put on so that they can feel better than, superior, and continue in their assumptive arrogance. I cannot go quietly when I see this occurring; I think it’s important to speak out or nothing changes. It’s important to challenge our brothers and sisters in Christ, especially when we can clearly see that they’ve strayed from the path we’ve been admonished to walk. So challenge I have. And thank you for reading.

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  1. It is experiences like this, over and over, that you may begin to realize that your notion of “family” is artificial and unnecessarily narrow.

    Remember, the feel you have “strayed from the path” too. This “path-thinking” is what shuts down real communication. As long as you all are claiming to know God’s will, God’s mind, God’s plan and all the rest of the holy privy, you will never be able to talk as real people to one and other.

    Thus, your frustration seems just the potential beginning of that insight.

  2. Sorry, I tried to respond but could not. I believe your better off IMHO to ignore that type of individual. Much as we would like to at least have a dialogue It;s another occasion in where we hear “Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up”!

  3. Hi Dr. Denis, (hugs)
    How are you? I normally do ignore these types of Christians because a good majority of them are frankly half-nuts, but this one was so irritating in his “matter of fact” superiority that I couldn’t help myself; I simply had to respond. The writer of this article has passed away, so I wasn’t exactly expecting to argue with or dialogue with the man that wrote that article; I expected the site owner would allow my comment so that an alternative way of perceiving the thing could go on record on his posting — but nooooooooo. I always know a weak stance when I see one because the site owner doesn’t allow any dissenting commentary to be viewed publicly. Jus wanted to have my say and he wouldn’t allow it, so I had my say my way… heh heh. I do that when I think it’s important enough to be heard.

    God bless, Dr.

  4. Sabio said:

    “It is experiences like this, over and over, that you may begin to realize that your notion of “family” is artificial and unnecessarily narrow.

    Remember, they feel you have “strayed from the path” too. This “path-thinking” is what shuts down real communication. As long as you all are claiming to know God’s will, God’s mind, God’s plan and all the rest of the holy privy, you will never be able to talk as real people to one and other.

    Thus, your frustration seems just the potential beginning of that insight.”

    Hmm. I never thought of it that way. They do indeed feel I have strayed from the path. These Christians actually believe I’m a false Christian, “wolf in sheep’s clothing,” or maybe Satan in disguise, lol. I see what you’re saying, Sabio. They don’t see me as a real person; I’m their enemy because I don’t agree with their ridiculous legalism. Their negativity and unloving, intolerant nature turns me off. It’s more Pharisee-like and little like Jesus Christ, imo. And yes, I get very frustrated with them and simply had to vent so it didn’t drive me nuts.

  5. I hope you see the obvious parallel: they view you like this, and you view others (nonChristians, Mormons, Hindus and billions more) similarly.

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  7. Sabio,

    I do see the obvious parallel. And yes, you are making me think on the matter.
    The fact is… that none of us can prove anything about what we believe. This is why it’s called “faith.” We simply believe what we believe and yes, we each believe we are correct and have it right. I think it would be nice if we could show each person respect for their right to choose what they believe. We don’t have to agree with or actually respect the belief in question, but we should respect the person’s willingness to choose something. I definitely don’t want to behave in the way you’re pointing out. It’s not pretty.

  8. Hey W:
    In your short paragraph you mention 2 very problematic points.

    (1)Can’t Prove Anything
    This is a common pablum. It is used constantly by those who feel their beliefs are being challenged.

    Seeking evidence is drastically important. If someone tells a believer that bathing in some well will cure their cancer, then this can be tested. And such tests always prove those sorts of claims wrong. Many religions have similar empirical claims about healing, prosperity and such that have been tested multiple times and proven wrong.

    Some claims can’t be tested: Believe in Allah and you go to Paradise; Believe in Krishna and you will be saved; Have faith in Amida’s grace and you will achieve Nirvana. All of these are of course untestable. Sure, we can acknowledge they are untestable, but we can point out how (1) odd it is that there are such a large number of similar promises of different gods with different stories to believe. and (2) admit that they are completely untestable.

    (2)“Respect the person’s willingness to Choose something”
    Not sure what that really means.
    For like you, if conservative Christians want to persecute women, gays, transexuals, the poor and more, I will not respect their choice but fight it. If Christians want to spread the thinking that only their set of beliefs allow them to hear God’s voice, know God’s will and give a truly meaningful life. I will fight that dangerous nonsense and not respect it either.

  9. Sabio said:

    Hey W:
    In your short paragraph you mention 2 very problematic points.

    (1)Can’t Prove Anything
    This is a common pablum. It is used constantly by those who feel their beliefs are being challenged.

    Seeking evidence is drastically important. If someone tells a believer that bathing in some well will cure their cancer, then this can be tested. And such tests always prove those sorts of claims wrong. Many religions have similar empirical claims about healing, prosperity and such that have been tested multiple times and proven wrong.

    Some claims can’t be tested: Believe in Allah and you go to Paradise; Believe in Krishna and you will be saved; Have faith in Amida’s grace and you will achieve Nirvana. All of these are of course untestable. Sure, we can acknowledge they are untestable, but we can point out how (1) odd it is that there are such a large number of similar promises of different gods with different stories to believe. and (2) admit that they are completely untestable.

    Seeking evidence is not drastically important because I already have personal experience that I consider evidence, though you might disagree. You might not feel as I do or perceive what I consider evidence to be reliable or valid; regardless, it’s my decision, my beliefs, and my personal experiences are evidence enough so that i don’t need further evidence to believe. What someone else thinks is their business and they may desire to seek scientific evidence, for example; that’s their right.

    You said:

    (2)“Respect the person’s willingness to Choose something”
    Not sure what that really means.
    For like you, if conservative Christians want to persecute women, gays, transexuals, the poor and more, I will not respect their choice but fight it. If Christians want to spread the thinking that only their set of beliefs allow them to hear God’s voice, know God’s will and give a truly meaningful life. I will fight that dangerous nonsense and not respect it either.

    I think we all have the right to a personal choice about spirituality/religion. We’re entitled to that choice, no matter what anyone else thinks or believes. We should respect one another’s decisions and beliefs, in that, who are we to rain on their parade or spoil what they believe in? It’s disrespectful.

    The bible does not tell us to persecute anyone, so you should fight it when people attempt to persecute others; they don’t have the right to do that. No one has the right to persecute others no matter what their beliefs. As far as the exclusivity Christian’s claim when it comes to knowing God, they claim this based upon what the bible tells them. You don’t believe the bible evidently. You feel that exclusivity as it relates to Jesus Christ and knowing God is invalid and “dangerous nonsense.” This is personal opinion – yours; you’re entitled to it. I respect your right to your opinion, even though I firmly believe you’re in error. You’re entitled to fight whatever you want to fight, though, regardless of what I think.

  10. @ W:
    Let’s keep it concrete. Does your god cure sickness or supply money when requested from a true, faithful servant who understand’s Yahweh’s will?

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  12. Sabio? Say what? Huh?


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