Posted by: the warrioress | February 1, 2014

Arguments

These days, it’s pretty easy to find or stumble into Christians who are angry and ready to fight. Americans, whether Christian or not, are frustrated about a host of things. There’s a reason our mama’s told us not to discuss religion or politics in polite company.

At any rate, we’re told in many places within the Holy Bible not to present ourselves in an angry, argumentative way. We’re not supposed to be angering and insulting others or baiting them into a fight. If we find ourselves pretty regularly attempting to bicker, bait, and argue with our Christian peers, perhaps it’s time to start putting the bible into real action in our lives. Imagine that! Take the high road like Jesus did!

Take the High Road

“And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,” 2 Timothy, 2:24

“Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,” 2 Timothy 2:23-24

“Do all things without grumbling or questioning,” Philippians 2:14

“A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.” Proverbs 15:1

“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Romans 12:19

“Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.” Titus 3: 1-2

“So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.” Romans 14:9

“If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;” 1 Corinthians 13: 1-13

Do not contend with a man for no reason, when he has done you no harm. Proverbs 3:30

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control;” Galations 5:22

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Please, if you’re someone who enjoys arguing and insisting that you’re right about political differences or anything else, please study the following and attempt to incorporate it into your Christian life:

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christians-arguing.html

http://friendship.about.com/od/Arguments/a/Take-The-High-Road.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Defuse-an-Argument

http://lifehacker.com/5872379/how-do-i-get-out-of-an-argument-with-an-irrational-person

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Responses

  1. I don’t blame you. I could not answer the 5 quesions directly and show how the leftist liberal mind works. I would need to spin the answers away from the actual questions.

  2. I tend to be an argumentative person, having been on the debate team in High School and all. I’ve had to learn to check myself and see other people not adversaries, but fellow travelers. Lately I’ve been more focused on finding common ground with people of different faiths and viewpoints. It’s a lot better place to start than asserting how I’m right and they’re wrong.

    The truth is, much Christian teaching today is wrong about many things. Especially about being right about everything… 🙂

  3. Jim, it’s fairly pointless to answer the five questions upon your posting. It’s pointless to argue with you. You refuse to follow your own rules on the blog you write. You insult, call names, and assume things. I’ve been taught by other Christians that I respect a lot that this isn’t the way to deal with disagreement as a Christian.

    If you’re angry and just want to rant at “the liberal left” as you call them, call your posting a “rant,” and don’t allow comments on the rant. I don’t appreciate being baited by a rant and then I reply to the rant with reason and an attempt at humor and my comment is deleted. What’s the point?

    Life is too short, I don’t like drama, and the bible tells us that we’re not to be argumentative with others. If we love God, we try to obey God — we try to obey God in every way that the bible describes …including the ways that are difficult for us. Anyway, it’s probably better I just don’t answer your five questions. I would rather be right with God than a right fighter/arguer which isn’t what God wants us to be as we represent Him here on earth.

  4. Ken, I love that! Fellow travelers is a good way to see others as..

    I’m learning that there is no getting through sometimes and it’s best just not to take the bait. As far as differences in opinion, I’m completely cool with that; I don’t mind the differences and can even embrace them. It’s unfortunate, though, when the differences get personal and we are insulted because we think a little differently about something, like politics, for example.

  5. I like what Paul, once a great divider and harmer of God’s people wrote to the church in Philippi: “May the peace of God which surpasses ALL human understanding keep our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Philippians 4:7)

  6. LightWriters, I really like that too. The peace of God keeping our minds in Christ Jesus is absolutely beautiful.

  7. Adrienne. I don’t mean to be too disagreeable here because I love you—but this is a hard one for me to balance out in this day and time. The mainline protestant denominations and the Catholics did exactly what the scriptures you quoted above say to do with regard to conservative evangelicals and the Religious Right and did so for several decades as a matter of Christian policy. This is precisely what allowed the Religious Right and conservative Christians to become so powerful and destructive in this world. Edmund Burke said it best:

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    The book of Ecclesiastes says that there is a time and a place for everything under the sun. I agree with the content of the verses you list in their time and place—in the proper context. However, if i see a rapist grab a child and pull her into an alley, I am not going to have “love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, [and] self-control toward the rapist. I am going to stop him with whatever it takes.

    With regard to the Religious Right and many conservative Christians, I think we need to balance out these Bible verses with other things that Jesus had to say and do. Particularly, I think Matthew 23 is relevant. I also think the verse about not “casting your pearls before swine lest they trample them and then turn and rend you” is relevant. Sometimes you have to convert a pig into bacon. Also, when the “love one another” rule is invoked among Christians, I think we need to remember that not everyone who claims to be a Christian really is one.

    I feel certain that you love Reverend Finn. I doubt very much that he loves you—and I have very serious doubts as to whether he and people with his frame of mind really are Christians. I am sure he feels the same way about me. I do not communicate with him anymore because I refuse to cast my pearls in front of swine, and I know from experience that he is just the sort of pig that takes great pleasure in turning and rending people.

  8. Tracy/Dover,
    I agree with you about doing nothing and allowing evil men to triumph. We will never succumb to that kind of passive inactivity and silence. We are doing something. We’re sharing and pointing out truths that are often not spoken about within the body of Christ. We’re not allowing men and women who believe that they are Christian to continue in the error of their ways without stepping up and confrontation.

    How we go about it is key, though. We do not ever want to become the very monster we’re fighting against, right? So we have to go about it carefully, and remember that all things need to be handled with love… real love: the kind of love that Christ showed is the kind of love that is right.

    I do love Jim and I’ve been trying very hard to get through to him, but I am also aware that there is a time/season unto everything. Allowing myself to hit the low road via arguing and playing silly games would be low-balling it and I have no intention of being drawn into that again on Jim’s blog. I don’t believe he is learning via what I’ve shared there because he is being enabled and encouraged in the bad behavior on that blog.

    I do believe he may have the ability to learn through what is shared here, however, so I will continue sharing here and pray that it rubs off, and that the Holy Spirit will work as God desires Him to, to bring about change in Jim’s heart.

    In the interim, I get your point about casting pearls before swine and think you’re right to bring up this concern; I will pray about it, seriously, Tracy, and thank you for your concern for me; it is noted. I want us both to pray for Jim regardless, because he needs our prayers as much as he thinks we need his.

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  10. Tracy/Dover,

    It would appear that the answer I have received from prayer is to avoid contact with those who love argument and dissent, who are not acting in a godly manner (according to scriptural mandate).

    I think that baiting and antagonizing is not godly; quite the opposite in fact. Attempting to stir up controversy and dissent in order to get more views or drama to the site is not a godly motivation. I will avoid future contact with the individual in question. Thanks, Tracy.

  11. Disciples of hope,

    Thanks for the well written posting which was a definite answer to prayer! It clarified so much for me. God bless!


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