Posted by: the warrioress | September 20, 2015

Christ & the Transgendered

 

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

“Could we perhaps be too solidly entrenched in our own boxes that we’ve created to shield ourselves from “the world” to listen to others’ viewpoints? Do we fear what we don’t understand? Or do we shy away because grappling with transgender questions is messy and uncomfortable?

But take a look at Jesus, who walked among us in all our messiness. He didn’t judge or shame. He treated all with respect and kindness and listened to our questions and stories. His scathing words were reserved for the Pharisees, the religious teachers so focused on rules and keeping others in the tight boxes they had constructed that they had lost what was most important in life – justice, mercy and faith. But Jesus embodied love and compassion and, as a result, changed the stories of people’s lives.”

Source: http://thenewharbinger.com/2015/02/26/a-new-love-the-gospel-for-the-transgendered/

 

 

“There has been story after story in the news of LGBT teens committing suicide because of bullying. We have also seen a surge of news stories of kids being harassed, threatened, and even physicality assaulted. No one’s child should have to endure that. No one should feel afraid, hated, and rejected like that. These are not just a few shocking exceptional cases either. As their voices have begun to be heard, we have seen of story after story of how gay and transgender kids have felt hated, at times even hating themselves. We have heard how life for them can be a living hell, so bad that it makes some of them want to end their lives.

That really should be a wake-up call for us as Christians. Regardless of where we stand on the rightness or the wrongness of being gay, none of that matters much when people are dying. We can argue over what the Bible says about homosexuality, but one thing is utterly clear: Jesus clearly teaches us to love people, not to hate them, not to make them feel hated, and not to stand by while that is happening. From the perspective of the New Testament there simply is no room for doubt on this. We know exactly where Jesus stands. He stands on the side of the least, the condemned, the vulnerable.

John’s Gospel tells the story of a women caught in adultery who was brought before Jesus. The religious leaders say to him, “The law commands that she should be stoned to death, what do you say?” Jesus bends down and draws with his finger in the dirt, and then says to them “Let the one who is without sin throw the first stone.” One by one they all leave until he is there alone with the woman. Jesus says to her “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she answered. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared.

Now, many preachers are quick to point out that Jesus next says to her “Go and leave your life of sin.” But the real point here is that even though Jesus did consider adultery sinful, he still was the one who defended her. In fact, he was the only one there who was “without sin” and yet he did not cast a stone and did not condemn. So again, even if we think homosexuality is wrong, we know what Jesus would do in our shoes. He has drawn a line in the sand, and we need to decide what side of that line we will be on. Will we be on the side of Jesus and the one who is being condemned and threatened? Or will we stand with the religious accusers on the other side of that line? Maybe we were not the ones actually throwing those stones, but did we stand on the side of the accused and condemned and actively defend them like Jesus did? Did we actively defend and love “the least of these”? Because Jesus says that the way we treat them is the way we treat him.

Jesus never says a word about homosexuality, but there was one kind of sin that he spoke out against all the time. There was one kind of sin that got Jesus really mad. This was the sin of religious people who shut out those in need of mercy. This was the sin of people who used the Bible as a weapon. You hear Jesus saying this on page after page of the gospels. Why? Because this type of sin has the potential to damage people like few other things do. It is particularly damaging because they claim to be speaking for God. So if we really want to speak out against sin, we as Christians need to speak out against the kind of sin that Jesus did, and side with the kinds of folks he did.

What this all comes down to is we, as Christians, acting like Jesus. It’s about discerning what Jesus would want us to do right now, and the answer is clear: We need to change our priorities and focus on the critical issue of communicating love and acceptance to people–especially the very people our society so often ostracizes, condemns, and rejects. Because that is exactly what Jesus did. Jesus was known for hanging out with “sinners” and was frequently accused of being a sinner himself because of it. But that did not stop him because he cared more about those people than he cared about being judged.”

Source: http://www.redletterchristians.org/what-does-jesus-think-about-homosexuality/

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Extra curricular reading on this topic:

http://www.redletterchristians.org/what-does-jesus-think-about-homosexuality/

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/faith-matters/2015/01/26/how-would-jesus-treat-the-transgender-community

http://thenewharbinger.com/2015/02/26/a-new-love-the-gospel-for-the-transgendered/

http://cbmw.org/uncategorized/essays-perspectives-what-would-jesus-say-to-someone-like-leelah-alcorn/

http://religiondispatches.org/the-religious-rights-new-target-transgender-people/

http://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/christianity/transgender-community-finds-unexpected-welcome-across-different-faith-groups

http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/08/19/transgender-issues-more-complicated-than-some-christians-portray/

https://fruitofherhandsblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/jesus-love-caitlyn-jenner/

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Responses

  1. PSALMS 9:16Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

    The bible CLEARLY STATES..that a man should not dress like a woman..or lay with a man..same for the women…So who are we..to change the doctrines of the bible..to suit our own way of thinking

    Im sticking with the teachings of the bible..If sinners sin..thats on them.but Im not going to help them go to hell..by not telling them the truth..FROM MY PERSPECTIVE..THAT IS THE MOST CRUEL THING A CHRISTIAN CAN DO…is allow another to go to hell. by not citing the biblical truths…The bible also speaks ill of doing that too..AND THERE IS A PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE WHO DO THIS EVIL THING.
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    JESUS WALKED THROUGH THE CROWDS..and did his work…HE SPENT HIS PERSONAL TIME WITH THE DISCIPLES..

    ..Its not good to twist the scriptures…TO WHERE EACH DOES WHAT IS RIGHT IN HIS OWN MIND..

    THE HARBINGER…written by a Jewish Rabbi…Why are you listening to the very people the bible says are LIARS…GODLESS..REPROBATES? Book of Titus 1…

    IN REVELATION 2…Jesus told us they would infiltrate our churches..Why would anyone support these people.

    II THESS 2..THE MAN OF PERDITION..(In Genesis God used the word MAN as in many men)….The man of Perdition STANDING IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD..AS IF HE WERE GOD…are those Jewish Rabbis in our churches..as the NT Temple of God is Christianity.and the Jews have infiltrated and perverted some of the churches…and have placed Jewish Marranos at the pulpits..

    The Jews HATE Jesus..and they hate us too..and have infiltrated the Christians church..JUST AS THEY DID ANCIENT ISRAEL..in order to destory it from within..READ THE BOOK OF AMOS..AND YOU WILL SEE THIS IS TRUE

    II JOHN 1:7-11..WERE NOT TO MAKE ALLIES OF THOSE WHO HATE CHRIST..AND PREACH A DIFFERENT GOSPEL..The Talmud says JESUS IS IN HELL…IN A VAT OF HUMAN EXCREMENT…that is a different gospel of Christ..and you should not be reading the books of this people filled with fairy tales..and KOL NIDRE lies..
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    II CHRONICLES19:2..Should you help the un-godly and love then that hate the Lord? Therefore is wrath upon you from the Lord.

    SEE..THERE IS WRATH UPON YOU FOR ENCOURAGING LAWLESS BEHAVIORS..ITS CRUEL TO NOT TELL THEM THE TRUTH OF GOD..TO JUST LET THEM GO TO HELL FOR ETERNITY..

    Homosexuality, transgenderism..etc.. is a disrespect for what God has created..It goes against nature..IT goes against Gods creation…

    Remember the story of Eve and Lucifer in the garden. Lucifer..he seduced Eve..and created Cain (Genesis 3:15.his seed)..He did what was right in his own eyes..and God cursed him for it.. What more will he do to this lost generation that have a bible..unlike ancient Israel..and yet..still dont get it.

    That which has been called SIN for 6,000 years by mankind…is still sin…It cant change…Only peoples minds change..as they are brainwashed into FALSE RELIGION..

    WHAT A HAUGHTY GENERATION THIS IS..TO THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE 6,000 YEAR TRADITIONS…CREATED BY THE CREATOR..

    Whats next..bestiality?

    Pedophilia?

    Where do THE LAWLESS draw the line..??

    I CORINTHIANS 2:15…He that is spiritual examines all things

    WISDOM AND THE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT…ARE ONLY GAINED BY READING THE BIBLE…according to scripture..THIS GENERATION NEVER READS THE BIBLE..AND HAS FALLEN FOR THE TRICKS OF THE DEVIL..SEEKING WHOM ME MAY DESTROY…

    PC CORRECT Weak people..unwilling to stand up for what is right..and what is Godly..PC CORRECT was used in Communist Jewish Bolshevik USSR..to herd the sheeples..and hide evil agendas

    Psalms 9:16Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

    I just cannot find one scripture that tells me to accept and condone things cursed in the bible..And this new JEW WORSHIP is IDOLITRY…..Christians are JUDAH..NOT THE JEWS…GENESIS 49:10…We are ISRAEL…Matt 2:6 and Micah 5:2..tells you so..
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    II CORINTHIANS 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

    15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

    16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

    18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
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    Its pretty clear..were not to commune with un-believers..those whom the bible says are un-clean..or you will acclimate..and become un-clean like them in your thinking..

    Just like a virus will spread with human contact..so will sin..

    LUKE 11:35..TAKE HEED THAT THE LIGHT IN THEE..BE NOT DARKNESS.

    I dont mean to be hard on you..but its my job as a Christian ..to tell you the truth…because you are a sister in Christ…God Bless

  2. A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this. (NIV, Deuteronomy 22:5)

    Jesus said nothing about the law changed..it still applies.. Christ and the Father are one..

    Notice..Paul is speaking of sexual immorality…but in this scripture..ITS ONLY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY…not FORNICATION between men and women…..

    ROMANS 1….Therefore, God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

    JEREMIAH 28:15 The Lord hath not sent thee, but thou makest the people to trust in a lie..

    The best thing we can do for homosexuals…Jews….pagans….is to tell them about Christ..so they will no longer sin in their flesh.and can enjoy eternal life..

    If we do not warn them..they will be doomed…Its cruel to embrace the sinner and condone his sin….Its loving to tell the sinner of his sin..and hope he will sin no more.

  3. Tess,

    Thanks for your opinions and the scriptural references. This posting itself already addresses some of the questions you bring up within scripture.
    Firstly, we are no longer under the law but are instead under the new covenant made by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, which is sufficient to absolve every sin for the believer in Jesus Christ.

    Second, the transgendered and the homosexual do not choose what they are enduring — they are born as they are. Whether it be an actual birth defect or not, they have no control over the matter anymore than does a child born with no sight. God will not condemn those who have no control or blame how they have come out of the womb. God will not have wrath nor condemnation for these. I firmly disagree with you that He will.

    10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Matthew 19:10-12

    As for the homosexual or transgendered who do not believe, they are in the same position as the other sinners who are not saved are. As Christians we are to welcome them, to sup with them, to engage them as Jesus did, to share the gospel with love, mercy, and faith. We are not to condemn and judge as the religious Pharisees did. Jesus took them to task when He wrote in the sand and He condemned no one.

    Your job is to tell me how you opine the passages of scripture you are reading? I’m fine with your opinion, but I don’t agree with it. I think you’re in error, as are those who live under the law still, who erroneously happen to agree with you. I live under the blood of Jesus Christ and His new covenant. I am not judged by the law. I’m forgiven, as are those who also believe, whether they be transgender or homosexual. Their “sins” if they are sins, are between them and GOD, not i, and certainly NOT you.

    By the way, homosexuality does not go against nature; that is an ignorant statement. I have seen animals engage in homosexuality among themselves.

  4. Tess, homosexuals are born as they are; they are hardwired gay. They know it as young children, just as transgendered know they are in the wrong body. Children are innocent. They are not condemned. God does not condemn any of us who believe. The blood of Jesus covers every sin. We are not under the law but grace.

    The best thing you can do for homosexuals and the transgendered and those questioning their sexuality is to offer faith, hope, and mercy, as Jesus would have done. It’s to shine your light, a light of love and hope upon them, not condemn and hate, and rage against them in religious fury.

  5. By the way, your comments to my site were published in the last couple of months. I see you still have me banned from commenting on your blog.

  6. No, Jim Finn. I was allowed one comment on your blog and that was because it was an agreeable, absolutely not argumentative kind of comment, thus i WILL ALLOW YOU THE SAME.

  7. http://biblehub.com/john/8-11.htm

    Please review the above in detail for further insight into how Jesus dealt with those who are sinning, who are engaged in active sin and judged by the Pharisees as needing stoned, according to the law.

    Also, especially for those of you who do not agree with my posting, please also read the following:

    “Christ was walking with his disciples one day when he saw someone who was sightless all their life. The disciples, who assumed that certain diseases and afflictions came on a person as God’s punishment of sin, asked whose sins the man was suffering for. Jesus’ swift answer challenged their assumptions regarding suffering and how God accomplishes his will on earth.

    Jesus answered, ‘His blindness has nothing to do with his sins or his parents’ sins. He is blind so that God’s power might be seen at work in him. ‘ (John 9:3).

    Here was a man who, through no fault of his own, his parents, his grandparents, etc. was born without sight. He no doubt struggled doing everything he needed done as a human to live. At that time (and for many years after) being born with such a disability virtually guaranteed a person a life of suffering, poverty and rejection. Yet, all that happened to him led to this moment where the mighty power of God, through his Son, would be displayed as a witness to the people and recorded in the Bible for others.

    In Ephesians 3:15 the apostle Paul states that God is building a family. His purpose is to have humanity become His spiritual sons and daughters. God is reproducing Himself by building a family where Jesus is the firstborn (Romans 8:29, Colossians 1:18). Explain to your son that his disabilities (defects) have NOTHING to do with what he has done. In reality, we all have disabilities of one kind or another with varying severity. All these human problems God allows so that we will ultimately choose his way and reject the way of Satan.

    I have found that many times those with the greatest disabilities, especially those with birth defects, draw closer to God and His ways than others who seem to have fewer problems. We also need to keep praying to ask for the help we need to deal with our disabilities and keeping reading the Bible to better understand His will. He will answer us in such a way that will bring glory to him.”

    http://www.biblestudy.org/question/why-does-god-allow-birth-defects.html

  8. Homosexuality is not something you are..Its something you DO..Sorry..I dont believe they are born that way. There is NO PROOF..Most the homosexuals Ive known came from very dysfunctional homes..today..with all the divorce..and absentee fathers..its made the homo number rise..Thats all..

    DOGS..CATS..HORSES, ANIMALS..MY SPECIALTY since Ive trained dogs and horses..When they mount each other..ITS NOT ABOUT SEX.
    ITS ABOUT DOMINANCE..AND HUMILIATION..trying to impress the female.I feel its the same for men and women…Dominance ..and control..
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    EUNIC:
    0His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb:(((IMPOTENCE)) and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men((CASTRATED)): and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake.((UN-MARRIED)) He that is able to re
    ceive it, let him receive it. Matthew 19:10-12

    STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE..:KJV GREEK
    EUNIC..#2134…TO LIVE UN-MARRIED
    A CASTRATED PERSON
    AN UNMARRIED MAN
    IMPOTENT MAN

    As you can see..the only EUNIC that is born..is the impotent man

    Ive shown you scripture..as a Christian…were not to commune with unsaved sinners..or those who CLAIM to be Christian..and still sin

    Its Gods word sweetie.not mine.

  9. II CORINTHIANS..6..TOUCH NOT THE UNCLEAN THING..BE YE SEPARATE

    Its pretty clear to me..

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    As for the homosexual or transgendered who do not believe, they are in the same position as the other sinners who are not saved are. As Christians we are to welcome them, to sup with them, to engage them as Jesus did, to share the gospel with love, mercy, and faith. We are not to condemn and judge as the religious Pharisees did. Jesus took them to task when He wrote in the sand and He condemned no one.

    TESS: tell them twice the gospel..then if they do not care..then wipe the dust from your sandals and move on..That is what the bible says..If you hang with sinners for long..in time…you will acclimate..and convert to their way of thinking..Me thinkst that has already happened..You sure have changed..It would not be prudent to allow your little one around these people..All my friends who lost children to the homosexual cult…were people who had homo friends..I dont let them around my kids..although I do have casual homosexual friends

    I like them very much..but Its my duty to protect my children..

    I wouldnt allow tattoed harley riding druggies near them either..

    Or Jews of Judaism..nope..not them either.God gave me these kids..and its my job to raise them within the dictates of the scriptures..
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    Your job is to tell me how you opine the passages of scripture you are reading? I’m fine with your opinion, but I don’t agree with it. I think you’re in error, as are those who live under the law still, who erroneously happen to agree with you. I live under the blood of Jesus Christ and His new covenant. I am not judged by the law. I’m forgiven, as are those who also believe, whether they be transgender or homosexual. Their “sins” if they are sins, are between them and GOD, not i, and certainly NOT you.

    TESS..I dont live by the law…but the law is still the law..I am forgiven when I ask..and try to sin no more..Jesus said he did not change the law..the 10 commandments are still the law

    HOMOSEXUALITY..IS IDOLITRY according to scripture..IT IS..WHAT IT IS..

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    Tess, homosexuals are born as they are; they are hardwired gay. They know it as young children, just as transgendered know they are in the wrong body. Children are innocent. They are not condemned. God does not condemn any of us who believe. The blood of Jesus covers every sin. We are not under the law but grace.

    TESS:..children have no clue what they are..I dont buy that at all..There is alot of idiot parents today…pushing their kids into homosexuality..These parents..are mentally deranged..and child abusers. Crappy leaders..who lead their kids right to hell.

    HOMO IS NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE..ITS SOMETHING YOU DO..

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    The best thing you can do for homosexuals and the transgendered and those questioning their sexuality is to offer faith, hope, and mercy, as Jesus would have done. It’s to shine your light, a light of love and hope upon them, not condemn and hate, and rage against them in religious fury.

    TESS…I do…I tell them biblical truth…but its up to them to want that light…Many love to wallow in their sins..THEY ENJOY THEM…SO WHO AM I TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO..GOD GIVES THEM FREECHOICE..who am I to take away from them what they have chosen for their own lives..DONT GET MIXED UP IN THEIR DRAMA ..THEY ARE THE BIGGEST DRAMA QUEENS ON THE PLANET…They must go on their own TO gOD..

    My job is to live my life by EXAMPLE…I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CHRIST…MY CHILDREN ARE GOOD..Ive lived a Christian life..My children ARE A WITNESS TO MY CHRISTIAN LIFE.I show a person what can be theirs..if they love God..just by my own life.

    ISNT THAT WHAT THE BIBLE TOLD US TO DO? Dont get so wound up in the drama of people who love to sin…They do it willingly..just like the drunk wont stop drinking..

    SOrry..but Im not going to worry about their lives..Its their job ..not mine..I will show them the way..if they wish..but most dont..they love to sin..

    THE PATH TO HEAVEN IS VERY NARROW…God shows us this when the Isralites of the Egyptian Exodus…only 2 made it to the promised land..I THINK THAT STORY IS TO SHOW YOU..NOT TO MANY MAKE IT TO HEAVEN..because they don’t read the scriptures..and make up their own gospel..They have built their house on sand..and are like the waves of the ocean.going in..going out..never steady.

    THE BIBLE TELLS YOU WHAT IS RIGHT..AND WHAT IS WRONG…If we do what it says..we will be ok..

    The Homos can read the bible for themselves..if they want…but will they? Or do they just enjoy their sin too much?

  10. You need to stop following the Jews…they dont know what they are talking about..they cannot interpret the scriptures..THEY DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT..so its impossible for them..that is why they make up all kinds of crazy silly fables..

    READ TITUS 1..

    If your going to listen to Jews..then you may as well..listen to Mormons…Jehovah Witness’s..all the other Anti Christ cults..

    THE WORD JEW WAS NEVER IN ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE..Where Jew is used..it should read YEHUDI..a worshipper of Jehovah…

    STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE..kjv hebrew
    #1942 & # 1943..HOVAH OR HAVVAH..Jeh or Yeh means a god
    evil perverse thing..very wicked..

    THATS WHO JEHOVAH IS..

    WHO ARE THE JEWS

    STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE..kjv hebrew

    #3067..Yehudiyth. .Judith wife of ESAU
    A CANAANNITESS..A JEWESS

    See the Jews are Edomites..and you should stop reading their crap..THEIR GOD IS JEHOVAH…

    STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE..kjv hebrew
    #3068..JEHOVAH..THE NATIONAL NAME OF THE GOD OF THE JEWS..or the Edomites.

    JEHOVAH WAS INSERTED INTO OUR BIBLE..JUST LIKE THE WORD ‘JEW’ WAS..

    Never pray to Jehovah..

    MORE JEWISH STUFF IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH

    HALLELUJAH..means Lucifer is God..SEBC #1966 Hey-lele…Heylelejah…Heylelejah..Hallelujah Lucifer is God

    YAHWEH..has a consort named Ashtoreth…Most worshiped the goddess..not Yahweh..

    AMEN..Its rabbinic law to say amen after all prayers..keeping in mind the Jews are Canaanites/Edomites..not Israelites

    AMEN-RAH
    AMEN-RA
    AMUN-RA….THE EGYPTIAN GOD OF CREATION…

    See all the things the Jews have inserted into Christiandom..in order to make us fall..by calling out to the Jewihs gods..instead of the God of heaven

    BEWARE..WHO YOU FOLLOW.

  11. “BEWARE..WHO YOU FOLLOW.”
    It’s always the same when dealing with Fundies. They always preach fear and claim it is love.

    Good post Warrior.


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